In this interview, Mike discusses the case with two close friends of Arvin, Jay O'Rear & Jason Challas, both of whom have spent many years hiking with Arvin. Topics ranged from new details about the location where Arvin went missing to a more in depth look at Arvin the person.

In episode 5, we discuss the disappearance of Arvin Nelson, who went missing in Big Sur State Park/ Ventana Wilderness area along California's coast on August 6th, 2014. When Nelson failed to arrive at the Big Sur Station on August 14th, a massive search and rescue operation was started on August 16th.